Canon Canonet QL Series Rangefinders

Canon Canonet QL Series Rangefinders 

DESCRIPTION

ca. 1965 Out of production The EE (Electric Eye) feature and viewfinder were made as small as possible and the internal construction was completely different from the original Canonet, making the QL17 a totally new model. However, it had a strong Canonet-like appearance. The "QL" stood for "Quick Loading," a feature which made film loading quick and easy.

USER REVIEWS

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[Sep 24, 2005]
tommy leong
Professional

Strength:

Most of the other reviewers have cover them,,so i just summarise them here 1.cheap new ( back then ) and cheap used 2.cheap repair n maintainence 3.high flash syn speed of 1/500 ( nowadays camera syn around 1/200 or 1/250 ) 4.Very big aperture 1.7 5.Sharp and resolving lens 6.Works without batteries 7.small and solid/ takes a lot of knocks 8.shutter priority is good since it make sure you get that shake-free shot (with a f/1.7 aperture, you are likely to get an aperture for any scene ) 9.Silent shutter 10.PC syn cord....even more expensive cameras did not come with syn cord 11.

Weakness:

1. View finder difficult to use.LOng learning curve 2.no aperture priority 3.Easy to touch the viewfinder with your left fingers ...camera is too small

This is the camera that got me started with photography,,,,dad bought this CANONET QL17 G111 some 30yrs ago and he didnt know how to use it so i got to learn how......... Lately i have been on digital and thought it best to just sell it off. So i tested a couple of rolls just to make sure it is working........ and WOW.. Now i want to buy another QL17 !!! want to see the shot that changed my mind? http://tommyleong.com/QL17_01/slides/QL17_HP5_103.html just look at the details in the background and the foreground....absolutely fantastic for a very low priced camera

Customer Service

not used

Similar Products Used:

yashica electro something,, big n nice rangefinder,bright viewfinder too

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jul 13, 2005]
Tom Lockhart
Expert

Strength:

These are tough, well made cameras. They have a lot of useful features such as film advance and shutter cocked indicators, exposure lock (press shutter release part way and hold), full manual option, guide number options for other types of flash units. The shutter priority metering works well. The Canolite D flash also works well. The range finder focusing is very accurate. The lens is as good as anything I have in 35mm. I also like the 40mm focal length. In short, this is a reliable and well made film camera which consistently produces high quality pictures.

Weakness:

The metering system locks the shutter and prevents an incorrect exposure. It does the same thing with the Canolite D flash. This is awkward at first, until you get used to checking the light meter needle. If it is in the white arc, it will shoot. If it isn't, you need to change the shutter speed (or move closer/farther away). If you don't like it, you can go to full manual where it is still possible to take a picture with the lens cap on. Filter rings change the light meter readings (because they shade the light meter). The shutter goes to a 500th of a second, and the lens stops down to f16. You will need a neutral density filter for very bright light conditions. The ever ready cases are made from re-cycled paper. Someone should make a decent after market case for these.

I've acquired 3 of these on eBay, in the $30 to $40 range. They all required new light seals (an easy do-it-yourself job). One needed a shutter overhaul, but they all got the CLA treatment. The much brighter viewfinder was the most noticeable improvement. I expect that they will go for another 20 years.

Customer Service

Athena Camera in Calgary does good CLA work for reasonable cost.

Similar Products Used:

Minolta SLRs. Rollei 35. Konica S3. TLRs. Panasonic digital.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Feb 13, 2005]
Artistico
Intermediate

Strength:

Big, bright viewfinder. Lightweight. Unobtrusive, quiet. Excellent, fast, sharp lens. Great focal length, 40mm: my favourite. Cheap enough to bring along at all times with no worries. Built-in quick-focus handle. Blitz sync at all speeds. Metering through filters - practically TTL (Why didn't this catch on for other non-TTL cameras?)

Weakness:

Should have had aperture priority. Shutter speed dial should have had a more solid grip. Metering can be affected by lens thread size filters - I use a step up ring and 52mm filters which cause no problem.

I just received this little pearl of a camera having purchased a refurbished one on eBay, and it's a delight to use. Film loading is comfortable compared to fiddly Leica, it is lightweight, really quiet. The viewfinder is large and easy to use, the lens is simply astounding for anything at this price point. The 40mm f1.7 lens is the optimum for a bring-along-everywhere compact. If Canon started a similar and new line of rangefinders today, they'd sell a lot.

Customer Service

N/A

Similar Products Used:

Mamiya 7II Leica M6 Nikon SLRs Kowa 6MM

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[May 24, 2004]
another view
Intermediate

Strength:

Small, lightweight and very quiet. Fast and sharp 40mm f1.7 lens. Built-in self timer, hot shoe and PC socket. Also as "B" shutter speed, light meter and shutter-priority auto mode. Filters can be used, size 48mm. No filter factor correction required in auto mode - the sensor for the light meter is right next to the lens so it will be behind the filter.

Weakness:

ISO ranges up to 1000, would prefer 1600 personally. Original mercury battery not available in US. Mercury-free solutions are available although they can be expensive and hard to find.

I've got the Canonet G-III QL17, which is quite a change from the 35mm and digital SLR's I usually use. I bought it to try the rangefinder experience without having to spend the amount of money needed for a Leica. For about $60, I got one in almost mint condition with replaced foam seals. Hey, if it's not for me I'm not out a lot of money! There are other options out there too, but I bought this one because of all the great reviews. Many other reviewers have listed specs on it so I won't duplicate that, but will agree that the build quality is excellent. They don't build 'em like they used to! Even with the metal construction it's pretty light in weight.

Customer Service

Not on a 25+ year old camera - but good resources on the web including a free download of the instruction manual.

Similar Products Used:

No other rangefinders.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Apr 28, 2004]
Bill Blair
Expert

Strength:

Built like a tank. I've wrung-out the lens--it's well above average. Perfect for flash-fill with flash sync over the full range of shutter speeds. This a 35mm, mini-Hasselblad in that regard. Use a small but fairly strong flash, such as the Pentax AF200S (GN80), with the white plastic diffuser to get Hollywood-perfect lighting. Take an exposure reading of your background + set your shutter speed and f-stop for that. Put the flash on auto, choosing an auto f-stop setting which corresponds to your camera f-stop setting or vice-versa. Experiment +write down your variations. One roll ought to tell the story. Just remember, automated photolab printers read your negative for an average. Study your prints and have the ones you've chosen reprinted lighter or darker, according to your taste. The leaf-shutter on this camera is worth its weight in gold because of this flash-fill capability. This setup is perfect for pictures of people doing what they do (environmental portraiture), either indoors or outdoors, and the lens is of professional quality. I suggest ISO 100 color negative film for best quality and ISO 400 or 800 for lower light situations. A small flash which can be bounced/swivelled is a help indoors. For other possibilities, the Canon has a PC outlet. You could, for example, rig a Vivitar 285 flash on a lightstand and connect it to your camera with a PC extension cord.

Weakness:

The last GIII rolled off the line 22 years ago. I had to get my foam light-seal strips replaced. That cost me another $45, which was low. Most repair shops want $75+plus shipping, if not local. It is possible to buy these in kit form to do-it-yourself. "Google" for what you need. A guy on E-Bay also sells these kits for $10. My camera is almost pristine, but the meter is out. I got a small selenium-cell light meter (Sekonic L-158) to carry around with the camera. It's a bit "optimistic." If you're shooting with 400 film, set the meter at 200. I have a LunaPro meter with spot attachment, but why carry around a meter that's bigger than the camera? Those L-158s are about $50 new. I found one used for $7. It doesn't need a battery. Of course, any meter that works is fine. My concern in this case was size. I wouldn't let a broken meter on a GIII deter you from buying it. Having that leaf-shutter and semi-wide angle lens is very, very valuable, especially when you consider that you can stay with 35mm film, instead of dropping big bucks for a leaf-shutter Bronica, Hasselblad, Rollei or what-have-you, cameras that eat 120 film, which is relatively harder and more expensive to process. The quality of 35mm color negative film today is quite good indeed. Try Fuji Reala, Superia 100, Konica 160 for really great results. There is also at least one ISO 50 film out there (can't remember brand) that's even more highly regarded. Highly-controllable flash-fill is, I feel, one of the most important considerations in the production of expert photography.

The Canonet 17 GIII QL is a highly-prized collectible which is also an unusually valuable professional tool. 1.2 million units were produced from 1972-1982. Initial price in Japan was 29,000 yen. Do the math. Build is pro level, and the lens is on-the-money.

Customer Service

KEH Camera Sales + Repair in Atlanta, GA did a nice, clean job on my foam strips. (www.KEH.com)

Similar Products Used:

Olympus 35SP, Stylus; Konica MT-9, C35AF

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jan 16, 2004]
udoo
Intermediate

Strength:

1> Quiet 2> Sharp lens 3> Compact 4> Bright viewfinder 5> Built in meter is very accurate even though it is a more than 30year old technology. 6> Built strong 7> Loading the film is very easy

Weakness:

1> The shutter speed does not go above 1/500. 2> It has a so-so grip if you trying to hold with one hand.

I have used this camera for a week and have already fallen in love. It is a welcome change from my regular 35mm SLR camera which I love too. The rangefinder has its own use. I have used it for street photography and this little puppy fits into my jacket pocket very easily so is quite easy to carry around even while biking. Takes quite sharp pics and does not make any sound when tripping the shutter.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[May 01, 2003]
SolaresLarrave
Casual

Strength:

Lens, controls, size (small enough to fit a coat pocket), meter and thoughtful indicators like film running and shutter ready to go.

Weakness:

Maybe weight. Focusing can be difficult getting used to. Sometimes the rangefinders may be out of line (only vertically) but still renders sharp shots.

Excellent immersion to the use of rangefinder cameras. This little machine will change the way you see the world, and will let you learn how to take photographs that "speak". At least, that's been my experience. The controls are very intuitive and it was engineered to last. I bought mine in September 2002 and it came close to replace my F80 in frequency of use (it's vastly lighter and unobtrusive). In sum, an excellent camera!

Customer Service

n/a

Similar Products Used:

My trusty Canonet G-III QL17 got me started with rangefinders. Before it, I was a strictly SLR man. After the Canonet, I collected Japanese compact RFs and have used all the ones I own: Yashica GS, Ko

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Mar 11, 2003]
David W
Intermediate

Strength:

Cheap, light yet solid, works great, very quiet, easy to use, cute, unobtrusive.

Weakness:

NOT a Leica, but for 3-6% of the price you can't complain.

If you want the "rangefinder experience" but don't want the "rangefinder financial experience", then this is the camera for you. It's a wee jewel in the hand, has an excellent & fast lens, has a very usable light meter with shutter-speed priority auto-exposure & it's the quietest camera I have personally ever used (including my Leica CL). You can score one of these gems for between $20-$80 in top condition (don't bother getting one in any less than great condition, cameras are too expensive to repair). The rangefinder will work just fine in anything less than really low light. If very low light is your calling, then you'll have to bite the bullet & get something made for the job. The old voltage batteries are still available, so don't let that stop you.

Customer Service

Don't call unless you like to be laughed at.

Similar Products Used:

Leica CL, numerous SLR's, Yashicamat TLR.

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
[Jan 03, 2003]
Mike Johnston
Expert

Strength:

Lens, size, quietness, price, availability, ease of use, short focus throw, focusing lever, quick loading, decent viewfinder, uncluttered finder, AE lock with half-press of shutter button (it took Leica till 2001 to add this feature to the M7, and for just the difference in price between the M6 and M7, you can buy a dozen Canonets. Kinda makes you wonder).

Weakness:

Shutter release is a little stiff for my taste--I would prefer a smoother and lighter release. Unmetered manual mode. Shutter priority--ideally, I prefer aperture priority. Camera won't fire on A when metered value is outside of the camera's range.

A nice, quiet little pocket camera that has a lot going for it, even today. The one to get is the Canonet QL-17 GIII, which cost about $60 on eBay--as another reviewer said, about the same price as a Leica lens cap. That's the biggest advantage of the Canonet--they're all over the place and they're dirt cheap. I like the 40mm focal length, always have. The lens is outstanding; if you need a better lens, chances are you need medium format. The camera is quick and easy to learn and use. It's a great stealth camera, in that nobody thinks you are a serious photographer when they see it. The results are excellent. The one big drawback of the camera is reputed to be the mercury battery it requires, but the readily available 625A alkaline 1.5V battery you can get at any drugstore works just fine. Really a non-problem. Overall, a strong 4, but value pegs it up to a 5. Buy two or three, get 'em serviced, and never worry about having a camera with you--leave one in the car, one at home, one at the office. Lost or stolen? No big deal, just pick up another. No insurance needed.

Customer Service

not applicable

Similar Products Used:

Leica M6, M3, M4, CL, IIIc, Minolta CLE, Olympus RFs (most all of them), Minolta Hi-Matic, Konica Hexar, Konica Hexar RF, Konica Big Mini, Nikon 35Ti, Contax T2, others.

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
[Nov 16, 2002]
Aaron
Casual

Strength:

Excellent for available light photos -- unobtrusive with a fast, sharp lens. Doesn't make noise like most point and shoots. Rangefinder bright and accurate, not up to Leica standards, but very good. Can be obtained for under $100 (but be careful buying on ebay, best to buy in person or to buy an overhauled camera in order to check general feel/slop in camera, shutter hesitation, and clarity of viewfinder/lens).

Weakness:

Would like higher shutter speed for bright light situations (beach, snow). I needed to replace seals in one of these (I have more than one).?

Outstanding value in a rangefinder. Metering is accurate, lens is sharp, and the camera has many thoughtfully designed features (there's an indicator that shows your film is advancing or rewinding, and an indicator that shutter is cocked, to name just 2). I actually use this more than my old Leica M2 -- it's more compact, metering is more convenient, and I'm not worried about damage to it since it doesn't cost much to replace. Good feel and just fun to use.

Customer Service

n/a

Similar Products Used:

Leica M-2 Olympus Stylus Epic (various models) Voigtlander Vitomaticn

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
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