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Reviewed by: 

JeffG

( Expert)

Review Date
August 15, 2009

Overall Rating
 1 of 5

Value Rating
 1 of 5

Used product for
More than 1 year

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Review 1 of 6

Price Paid:  $500.00

Summary:

This printer has been a real lesson in modern capitalism. Epson has perpetrated one of the biggest multi-billion dollar scams in consumer history with these printers. Trying to keep eight cartridges running, each of which hold only 15ml of ink, has been an extremely expensive exercise in utter futility:

-- Almost without exception, when Epson's driver has thrown up its "Ink low" error, the cartridge in question has been 1/4 - 1/3 full!

-- Epson provides no way to bypass or ignore these errors, and note:

-- Their cartridges are "chipped" -- These chips specifically prevent users from bypassing or ignoring low ink error messages.

-- Each new cartridge, which is filled only halfway when new, is $15 and contains 15ml of ink. Epson is therefore charging over $4000 per gallon for their inks! And you thought gas was expensive?

Strengths:

Print quality. The three pages I've been able to print without low ink error messages have looked great.

Weaknesses:

If you buy one of these, prepare to open your wallet, and keep it open. Eventually we got so fed up with the R800 we went out and dropped $200 for a Brother laser printer, and it was the best move we ever made. Now we can go a day, week or month without printing, and not be forced to spend ANOTHER $120 for a set of ink cartridges.

Believe me, I'm not a whiner, but now I understand people who say, "There ought to be a law." What Epson is doing is outright fraud in my opinion.



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Reviewed by: 

seeingclearly

( Intermediate)

Review Date
March 6, 2006

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Value Rating
 4 of 5

Used product for
More than 1 year

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Review 2 of 6

Price Paid:  $600.00 from Australian supplier

Summary:

I am now very happy with the quality and speed of this printer, and have used matte, pearl and high gloss papers with spectacular results. I went through all the usual problems of getting the right settings for this printer to get the images looking good. It wasn't easy to track down the best drivers for different papers, even from the Epson site. This has now been fixed up, and the new drivers seem to work well on a range of papers. I use Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl most of the time; Epson Archival Matte for a softer look and especially for softer images that are to be framed; and Ilford Gallerie Smooth High Gloss for saturated and contrasty images that have strong colour. The printer has some problems with the matte and high gloss papers: At highest resolution and on humid days, the matte paper absorbs too much moisture and bends in the printer, and then the print head hits the paper and makes marks. I have overcome this by holding the paper down as it comes out of the printer, and then got carried away and put an airconditioner in the room! The high gloss paper is brilliant, and almost as good as the old CibaChrome paper for printing from slides. BUT - it curls in all conditions as it goes into the printer, and the print head then hits the edges!! Pity there isn't a better system for holding papers flat in line with the print head. I can only overcome this one by reverse curling the paper before putting it into the printer. I have had very few paper feed problems if I follow the paper instructions (use the backing sheet for archival matte and thin papers!). The colours are really good. Not too saturated and 'primary' as with some of the newer dye printers. Skin tones can be very tricky though - magenta and some reds seem to be a bit strong (but drivers have a major influence on this). The gloss optimiser is wonderful on the gloss and pearl papers - no metamerism, and a great even finish. Black and white was a real pain to get the right settings but I think I have it now for matte: the new enhanced matte driver; relative colorimetric, ICM and no colour adjustment, not high speed, best photo. It is the relative colorimetric that stops the colour casts. For the price, I recommend this printer, but be prepared to spend some time learning how to drive it!

Strengths:

Quiet Quite fast Great colours Photo and matte black Long life images Gloss optimiser is great Separate ink cartridges Overall build quality Fast drying on all coated papers

Weaknesses:

Paper path feed system doesn't hold paper flat at print head (problem with all borderless printers?) Roll paper system is a fiddle and takes a lot of room Skin tones sometimes a problem Steeper learning curve than is really necessary if the instruction book was better written

Similar Products Used:

Old HPs

Customer Service:

All through my Perth photo shop - great.



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Reviewed by: 

patrickworldwide

( Professional)

Review Date
December 29, 2005

Overall Rating
 3 of 5

Value Rating
 1 of 5

Used product for
More than 1 year

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Review 3 of 6

Price Paid:  $384.00 from Ebuyer

Summary:

The quality of the prints is excellent. Poor workmanship, warranty, and service. I don't recommend this product at all, for anyone. It's a poor value.

Strengths:

Good quality inkjet prints at a fast speed. If you're not getting the quality you desire you probably should work on your digital images more & experiment with different papers at different settings - it can be tough to get perfect inkjet print for the discerning eye. People write entire books on the subject, after all. Firewire option is good.

Weaknesses:

The build quality is poor. Mine had trouble after just 6 months of VERY light use. The paper feed is picky, it won't accept certain papers, jams frequently, and I basically have to hand feed papers to the machine. The on/off button is unresponsive. You have to push down on it for awhile and it doesn't really move at all so you're not sure if you're actually turning it on or off. The warranty is not good enough - just 1 year. This may be the norm for most products, but that's just not good enough. If their product is defective there is no 800 number to call, you have to pay for a long-distance phone call. Mine doesn't work too well anymore and the warranty just expired. For over $350 that's poor value. Inks are expensive, but that's probably the case with all printers. Overall, I've had nothing but trouble with this printer, unlike the 1280 I have, which has worked perfectly ever since I purchased it.

Similar Products Used:

Epson 1280. Epson 1270.

Customer Service:

Poor.



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Reviewed by: 

prh

( Intermediate)

Review Date
December 17, 2004

Overall Rating
 1 of 5

Value Rating
 1 of 5

Used product for
0-1 years

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Review 4 of 6

Price Paid:  $407.00 from B&H

Summary:

I wish I could say I like the printer, but I haven't been able to get it to print correctl. My prints have a dark yellow tint to them. I installed the newest driver, 5.5aA which is suppose to resolve that problem, but it didn't. I contacted Epson and there reply (which I received after two or three e-mails) was to install the newest driver, the 5.5aA. So they don't read there e-mails very closely. So I called, on my dime since they don't have an 800#, and was told to install the newest driver 5.5aA, if that's not it then clean the heads. The printer is new, but I cleaned them anyway. Still no change. I use epson prem. glossy and Epson ink. The "tech" said if it still isn't correct then I must be doing something wrong. Which might be true, but I told them what I was doing and they didn't say to change anything. After a couple of days I rec'd an e-mail telling me to uninstall, go into the registry to delete any remnants that might be still there,and reinstall. I did, it didn't work, I e-mailed them to tell them it didn't work and what to do now. That has been 7 days ago and I haven't heard from them yet.

Strengths:

Not sure

Weaknesses:

Dark and yellow tint

Similar Products Used:

r300

Customer Service:

non-existant



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Reviewed by: 

williamyu

( Expert)

Review Date
December 17, 2004

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Value Rating
 5 of 5

Used product for
0-1 years

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Review 5 of 6

Price Paid:  $380.00 from ComUSA

Summary:

Exellent printer, fast, sharp, great color, prints are like those from the labs. Great archival quality

Strengths:

Above, it solves the bronzing issue of Epson 2200. Color longevity

Weaknesses:

None. Home printing is not assumed to be as cheap as Costco.

Similar Products Used:

Epson 2200

Customer Service:

No need.



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